Some say the world will end with fire.

Others say with ice.

From what I've tasted of desire

I hold with those that favor fire.

But if I had to perish twice,

I think I know enough of hate,

To say that for destruction ice,

Is also great and would suffice.

Robert Frost


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Thursday, November 19, 2009


I read today that the Corps of Engineers has been found liable for the flooding in New Orleans from Hurricane Katrina. Due to lack of maintenance of the levees. So the government is making a huge court ordered payout to a few people that sued---now what do you expect to happen? RIGHT the rest of the folks will now sue---the precedent has been set---dig deep into your pockets---there will be more and bigger payouts in the future.

I will not defend the Corps of Engineers but I will take a shot at Congress. I am not close enough to the Corps to know if they were funded to take care of the levees or not but I will bet they weren't even funded close to what it would take to maintain them properly. I am pretty sure that there is nothing that the government is responsible for that is funded to the level that it can really be taken care of to the level it needs to be.

What this says to me is that the government is into a lot of things they shouldn't be into---and they aren't funding those things properly either.

So today the Senate debates Health Care---wish it was a public forum and I was on the Hill---I would love to ask them how they propose to meet the funding for what we are already responsible for before they add on a significant new program---my bet---IF IT PASSES FUNDING WILL BE TAKEN FROM PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE ALREADY RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHEN WE CAN NO LONGER MAINTAIN THEM THEN THE COURTS WILL AWARD PAYMENTS TO THOSE THAT SUE..

I try to stay positive about things so---I am absolutely positive that if health care passes we will be a huge step closer to bankruptcy in this country---I already know that with the national debt if we tried to pay it off we would be sunk so where does the money come from.....


Looney said...

It has been awhile since I read up on this. My understanding was that the money was given directly to the city of New Orleans to maintain the levees, but the politicians took the money and used it for other purposes.

PsychDoctor said...

I am 100 % in agreement... The entire country seems to want free handouts without realizing that when the money runs out we will be just as screwed (or even much worse than we are now

PsychDoctor said...

I am 100 % in agreement... The entire country seems to want free handouts without realizing that when the money runs out we will be just as screwed (or even much worse than we are now

Dee Ice Hole said...

Looney - I was in Louisiana to help with hurricane Rita with the incident management team I was on--not in New Orleans but in Cameron Parish--it was awful. The surge took about everything. We found the high school wrestling mat about forty miles away in a swamp. One of the houses that was near where we set up camp was on the road (almost intact) about fifty miles west....I got a new respect for the power of Mother Nature down there and lost a lot of respect for politicians....from DC to the Parish all of them.

Another point - if the money went to the City why is the Corps the one that has to pay as directed by the Court???

Looney said...

About a year or so after Katrina, I was at an engineering conference at Mississippi State University. One of the presenters was talking about his company's modular dome houses. They were designed to withstand direct hits from tornadoes, hurricane force winds, and with a proper foundation waves would just flow over them.

We were expecting to hear that they were a major player in the rebuilding along the Mississippi coast, but we were disappointed. Apparently there was a clause inserted into the bill funding the rebuilding stating that all new construction had to be compliant with building codes that were active just before the disaster! The new hurricane-proof designs weren't compliant with the pre-Katrina building codes, so ...

Stick said...

You should know by now that not having any money will not slow congress down in their spending of the money they don't have. They will just add it to the skyrocketing national debt.